Before visiting friends and family all the way down in San Jose, we stopped by Beauty’s Bagel Shop for some sustenance for us and our hosts. I’d already had my morning shot of espresso, which was either the Burundi from Pacific Bay or some very old Starbucks Blonde Roast (aka backup coffee), but I couldn’t turn down a good one of Flying Goat.
I got a egg and cheese bagel sandwich on an everything bagel as well as a few more bagels with cream cheese for the road. The sandwich was predictably yummy. The bagels are a little flatter and smaller than a good New York style bagel, but have plenty of chew.
April 30th, 2013
it was a short visit this time around but there was still time to have coffee thrice!
coffee and the times. espresso at prodigy coffee. Coffee roasted by George Howell Coffee Company. My tasting notes: muted brightness, buttery and light. enjoyable.
neat vibe, very friendly baristas, nice light. this was a good visit.
everyman espresso. despite the barista’s expression at the moment I shot the photo, they were great and there was nothing disgusting about the experience. they are located in a cool spot near union square in the lobby of the classic stage company.
espresso – espresso toscano by counter culture coffee. tasting notes: bright, not much sweetness, light fruit aftertaste, hints of vanilla and peach
macchiato. but it was the drip that Diane ordered that stole the show. the baroida papua new guinea from counter culture
was amazing. delightfully fruity. this year’s real new york bagel was had at Absolute Bagels – an everything with nova lox and cream cheese. I had to go to “recalibrate” my bagel sensors as Israel would sayand the next day, back to the always-great third rail coffee – serving stumptown. this is a macchiato but my espresso was light and citrusy
February 19th, 2013
Wow, a lot has changed since my last try at making bagels. My version 0.2 post was more than a year ago! (Also see the sad version 0.1)
What’s different this time around?
- I used a sourdough starter instead of conventional active-dry yeast.
- I now use a Kitchenaid stand mixer instead of kneading by hand. Much easier, especially with a dry dough like bagel dough. (Shout out to Angry Man Eats for making the stand mixer happen. The blender and mixer still live together.)
- I did the recipe by weight and used a 55% hydration ratio.
- I left the bagels to proof for 24 hours in the fridge. The 24 hours was mostly out of convenience – I couldn’t bake until then. I don’t think I had them proof at all last time.
- I had poppy seeds and caraway seeds this time around
How’d they turn out?
- The crust was a bit crispier than last time. I’m not sure the cause.. will have to do some research. Baking Bread 101 says it’s because there wasn’t enough steam in the oven, but I did bake over a pan of water. Then again, maybe it was crispy because I ate the bagel 5 minutes after I took it out of the oven. The bagels were much less crispy and quite a bit chewier the next day.
- Also, the crust in the center of the bagel tore. I am not sure what caused this either, other than the crust couldn’t expand as fast as the oven spring wanted it to. Perhaps I could bake at a lower temperature to stop the crust from forming so soon. Or maybe I boiled for too long? Sobachatina’s answer on Stack Exchange has some good tips. I can’t really slash the bagels though.
- The bagels were much smoother than last time. I think this was due to the fact that I actually proofed them and probably did a better job kneading. . or at least the mixer did a better job.
- They tasted great and the torn (and crispy) crust doesn’t really bother me.
For anyone who is interested (and since I typed this up for Sean anyways), here is what I did:
- Refreshed starter for 2 cycles – I hadn’t baked in 3-4 weeks, I think, so it needed some love. S
- Mixed ingredients, kneaded in kitchenaid stand mixer:
||100% hydration starter
||57g of flour was in the starter so total flour = 339g
||57g of water was in the starter so total water = 186g
- I set the dough out to rise overnight (about 8h) at room temperature (about 65F). In the morning, the dough hadn’t risen much – it spread out a bunch though and increased in volume by maybe 75%. I figured that this might happen since I used such a large quantity of starter.
- Formed dough into balls
- Proofed in fridge, covered, for about 12 hours
- Put holes in the balls, stretched them to get the bagel shape
- Boiled each bagel in a pan with ~1 inch of water and 1 tablespoon of brown sugar for 1 minute on each side
- Added toppings
- Baked at 450F for 25 minutes, uncovered, with a pan of water underneath the bagel pan
November 27th, 2012
I made some tweaks after my last attempt at homemade bagels didn’t turn out as well as I had liked. I figured that there wasn’t the right proportion of water in the last batch. The dough was too dry, which made it nearly impossible to work with, leading to lumpy bagels. I also had probably baked them for a little too long. This time, I set out to try the same King Arthur recipe again with a few changes:
-I split the dough into two batches, with two different hydration ratios
-I boiled the bagels instead of trying to steam them
-I baked for less time
I didn’t adjust the starter recipe, but it looks less dry this time. The difference is probably due to the fact that I still measured flour by volume rather than weight. It may also have been a bit warmer.
I decided to aim for a target hydration ratios (amount of water/amount of flour) of 40% (left) and 60% (right). I think I did some math wrong and ended up with ratios of 38% and 51%. I didn’t know at the time that I think most hydration ratios cited in other sources are by weight. By weight, the dough had ratios of 56% (right in bagel territory) and 76% (higher than ciabatta territory!).
The dough on the left started a little scraggly but came together pretty quickly. The dough on the right was sticky and stayed that way.
Here’s a shot of the doughs partially kneaded. The dough on the left was stiff but workable. The dough on the right was still sticky. I could not knead it by hand.
It looked more capable of making bagels.
Here’s a photo of the doughs after a 90 minute rise. The dough on the right looks like oobleck.
I had to add a lot of flour to even be able to work the wet dough.
I tried shaping the dough into bagel balls, but it just wasn’t possible. They did look very capable of a pizza dough, though!
The drier dough (now on the right hand side) was much easier to shape.
I had to add a ton of flour to have these guys not stick to my hands or the counter.
Boiling went okay. I used regular sugar instead of brown sugar or malt powder, which wasn’t that great of a move. The goopy and floppy wet bagels ended up absorbing a lot of the sugar and had too sweet of a taste to them in the end. They kind of reminded me of dumplings. The drier bagels still had some wrinkles but were a lot smoother than the last batch I made.
Once again, I coated them all in garlic and sea salt.
Bagels, baked. The “wet” ones really reminded me of pizza.
Here’s the batch from the drier dough. I thought they looked pretty great! They felt good too – the last batch had a bit of a hollow, hardened feel to them. These felt softer and.. bagely. The crust was still a bit hard but not too hard. Note that the garlic is slightly burnt – which is fine with me. I think I started with frozen garlic chunks to slow their baking/burning process down a bit so that they weren’t completely charred at the end.
Here’s a good bagel, cut open. Just a little bit fluffy and chewy.
I burned the bottom a bit, and they stuck a bit. I should have applied cornmeal more liberally.
I didn’t bother taking pictures of the “wet dough” bagels, but they tasted okay – like a super chewy pizza crust. One or two of them were a little too doughy inside maybe because they took on too much additional water in the boiling process. I wasn’t too unhappy though – I ended using the higher hydration recipe for pizza dough. More to come in Part 3!
October 5th, 2011
I once again took photos for this year’s Eat Real Festival, held in Oakland’s Jack London Square from September 23-25, 2011. This post is the first of many from the festival. (Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6) The event’s organizers had a fully packed schedule and there were a lot of really interesting things to photograph.
One of the things that I noticed this year was that there were more hands-on activities. There was a DIY Make-it area and a DIY Eat-it area complete with a community oven, sponsored by King Arthur Flour (I am a fan).
Coffee Brewing with Blue Bottle Coffee
One of the first DIY activities was a coffee brewing workshop put on by the fine folks at Blue Bottle coffee, who roast their beans only a few blocks away. 4 of their training staff led a workshop on making coffee with paper filters and their Bonmac ceramic drippers.
Benjamin Brewer started the talk by giving an overview of the process and continued to make key points as each of the other trainers demonstrated their drip-brewing processes.
The coffee grounds were precisely weighed on digital scales to ensure a coffee to water ratio of 1:10 in the cup. “In the cup” is a key phrase, Benjamin explained. The coffee grounds absorb a fair amount of hot water and thus a little extra hot water needs to be added to the filter to achieve a 1:10 ratio in the cup.
Benjamin emphasized freshness – the beans in the demo were only between 1-3 days old. After the beans were weighed, the trainers took turns grinding them and bringing the grounds back to their table.
Hot water was poured in via goose-necked pitchers until the target weight was reached. In the above photo, Brian demonstrated when to pull the dripper away before guiding attendees in brewing their own drip coffee.
I stepped outside after this workshop to make my way to the DIY Eat-it area, where Beauty’s Bagels were putting on a bagel workshop.
Third-wave coffee was well represented at the festival. Ritual Roasters‘ always-photogenic coffee trailer, Sputnik was there once again.
Bagel making with Beauty’s Bagel
Oakland’s Beauty’s Bagel led a DIY workshop where they showed how to make their Montreal-style bagels. They had premade and proofed the dough and workshop attendees floured up their hands and got to rolling their own bagels after watching a quick demo.
Here’s Blake Joffe cutting up the dough for the first demonstration. They used King Arthur’s high gluten flour (14.2% protein content) for maximum chewiness.
Some bagel recipes call for creating balls and poking holes through them to create their distinctive shape, but here Amy Remsen rolls them out and creates a loop.
Completed demo bagels.
After they created a few demo bagels, the audience members were invited to get involved and create their own.
Meanwhile, things were getting started with the wood-burning oven
Various bagels rolled by various bagel-makers. The bagels were then boiled in honey-water and thrown into the oven.
September 25th, 2011